Primotalii Peppers – Hotter Than The Carolina Reaper?
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There have been whispers and murmurs about a new ‘hottest pepper’ variety. Though nothing is official or confirmed, there may already be a pepper hotter than the famed Carolina Reaper.
No, we’re not talking about Smokin’ Ed’s own ‘Apollo pepper’ which is still shrouded in mystery. We’re talking about the primotalii pepper, a cross between the 7 pot primo and the fatalii.
In this article, I’ll discuss everything we know about the primotalii. This includes the appearance, flavor, approximate scoville rating, and how to get seeds and grow them yourself.
About the Primotalii
Believe it or not, the original cross happened back in 2012 by Chris Saunders. The two types he crossed were the 7 pot primo (one of the hottest in the world) and the fatalii.
The long stingers apparently appeared in the F2 stage of breeding, and phenotypes were chosen to stabilize that characteristic. Today, the variety is considered stable, and most of the peppers will have a long tail.
Characteristics
Primotalii peppers are quite thin, but can be long thanks to the extended stingers. This is the most impressive feature of this variety, with some stingers measuring 1″ or longer. They also tend to curl, creating a unique appearance.
Most of the peppers we grew were about 2-3″ long, but just 0.5-0.75″ wide. The walls of the primotalii are very thin, so each pepper is lightweight.
Jim Morrow was one of the first to offer seeds, and still has isolated plants. He has also worked to stabilize the ‘chocolate’ and ‘golden’ variants of the primotalii.
Flavor & heat
The primotalii has a flavor similar to other red superhots. They are floral (or perfumey) and slightly fruity. In terms of heat, we know one thing: it is a scorching hot variety.
Primotalii Pepper Scoville (Heat)
Johnny Scoville is known for eating the hottest peppers on Earth without batting an eye. He claimed that the Primotalii is the hottest pepper he has ever eaten.
That’s a pretty big deal.
In terms of heat, the Primotalii likely has a Scoville rating above 2,200,000 SHUs. There is not yet an official rating, but there is no doubt it is among the hottest peppers out there.
If you like to eat the superhot varieties or make the hottest sauces, this pepper will do the trick. Unfortunately, it is not a very productive plant, so other varieties may serve you better if you’re going for bulk.
Primotalii vs Carolina Reaper
As we all know, the Carolina reaper holds the Guinness World Record for the hottest pepper in the world. However, that doesn’t mean that something hotter isn’t out there already!
The 7 pot primo is a very similar pepper to the Carolina reaper, both in appearance and heat. The primotalii shares genetics from the 7 Pot Primo, and seems to have turned into something even more ferociously spicy.
| Carolina Reaper | Primotalii | |
|---|---|---|
| Scoville | Up to 2,200,000 SHUs | Unknown (likely 2.2M+) |
| Species | C. chinense | C. chinense |
| Color | Red | Red |
| Size | 1-2″ | 2-3″ |
When we learn more about the primotalii, we will be sure to update. For now, the differences between the reaper and primotalii are mostly subjective.
Seeds and Growing
Nothing is more satisfying than growing your own superhot peppers from seed. Right now, finding fresh primotalii peppers is not easy.
Primotalii seeds:
Growing primotalii peppers
The primotalii pepper is super spicy, but our plants were a bit of a disappointment. Our first attempt at growing yielded just a handful of peppers. The plant also suffered from fungal issues.
Admittedly, the plant was somewhat neglected, but nearby plants produced much better than the primotalii. The 7 pot primo orange, Carolina reaper, and 7 pot primo all grew more peppers in the same growing conditions.
If you are looking for the best yield, I wouldn’t recommend the Primotalii. Look to the other superhot varieties with better productivity. But if it is hotter peppers you’re after, this is a good variety to try!
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To sum up, the primotalii is one of the hottest peppers we have tasted. While nothing is official, it may just be the world’s hottest!
Calvin
One of the original Pepper Geeks! When Calvin isn’t gardening or learning more about peppers and botany, he might be traveling new places or playing some music.
I grow hot peppers myself at home in Kelowna, a southern city in BC, Canada. Everywhere I have read about these peppers say that they are hard to grow and don’t produce many pods. I have found the exact opposite. I picked up some seeds earlier this year and had 2 of 3 seeds germinate. Today (Aug 11, 2022) my plants are now roughly 2-1/2 feet tall and have well over 100 pods on each plant. (started indoors in late January)
Planted in 7 gallon pots, they each get about 1-2 gallons of water each day as well as blooming fertilizer once per week and a spray of 10-1 diluted blooming fertilizer mixed with a teaspoon of Epsom salt per liter of water ever 2-3 weeks. I have the plants located where they get sun from sunrise to sunset and they have exploded with growth.
I picked the first couple ripened pods this morning and they are by far the hottest I’ve ever tried. (I also grow Trinidad Moruga Scorpions and Reapers)
Donavin Bensmiller
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HI! Calvin, I grow a variety of the hottest peppers for one reason and that is to make a pickle. We used to make this pickle to a very old family recipe originating from India. As you are a avid fan of growing, harvesting and eating and then making sauces, i would like to send you a sample of my pickle for your comments what ever they may be. Derek J 06/08/22
Everything, reaper reaper reaper.
The planets had to align for that 2.2 million, theres already public tests with levels way beyond the supposed reapers average, but Even if they were to show anyone those tests Made with actual scientific mediation no one would like them, they would rather trust a company that has everything to win and nothing to lose by simply claiming any supposed number and then not showing any proof, the supossed pepper x is never getting released, they are only gonna sell overpriced products, theres interviews where he says exactly that.
Theres Even reapers that have tested lower than serranos! Should we count those for the average?
@Dizzy, This didn’t age well did it? Pepper X 2,693,000 Scoville by a third party lab
@Robert, exactly LOL. How can you claim an approximate scoville unit, oh I forgot they have the Johnny Scoville unit and that trumps science.
@Christopher, exactly if we were going to go by one persons interpretation they might as well be the new standard.
Johnny has always been on the up and up. There is a reason why people trust his opinion in the pepper community. I grow a wide variety of hot peppers, and I grew reapers that weren’t nearly as hot as my 7 pot YELLOW Brainstrains… no excuse for that. It took those peppers until the next year to become hotter, even than the reapers aren’t as hot as my Dragon’s Breaths, and my chocolate Primotalli’s are LIGHTYEARs hotter than any reaper I’ve had. I’ve put Johnny’s statements to the test, and so have others who have tried my peppers. Everyone on my end, including me, agree with Johnny. Now onto Pepper X, which you think is some “win” because you googled numbers. The pepper originally claimed by Ed to be 3.15m SHU (Which everyone in the pepper community already thought was BS) underwent several test only to be 2.6m SHU, far less than the original claim. It costs ED about $10,000 a year to keep this title to GBWR (a Disney marketing company) plus expenses to have them come out, most growers do not have such a purse, or care enough for that matter. The Pepper X sauce has not only been sent off for testing multiple times and has come back below 1m SHU’s, but a Youtuber and friend LabCoatz extracted an unexpected and abysmal amount of pure capsaicin for a bottle. Both the SHU and extraction test fail to support, even for adjusting errors when you factor the bottle’s claim of being 91% Pepper X. Not to mention that Pepper X sauce is RED when the pod is a mustard? Add all this to the Primo/Currie controversy, those most invested in the pepper community distrust of Currie, and Currie contradicting his own statements. You guys sound like pepper laymen, read a few articles on google and now you know it all. Put your money where your mouth is, if you don’t believe Johnny, or me, grow the peppers yourselves, if you haven’t done that, then to be honest…. your opinion based on what you’ve googled while on the toilet matters little here.
Great article! Please keep up the good work. Steve in OHIO